1 00:00:06,710 --> 00:00:03,110 and talking to 2 00:00:09,030 --> 00:00:06,720 her neurosurgeon and her trauma surgeon 3 00:00:10,790 --> 00:00:09,040 about her prognosis 4 00:00:13,509 --> 00:00:10,800 and 5 00:00:15,270 --> 00:00:13,519 at that time my thought was that i'd 6 00:00:17,990 --> 00:00:15,280 very likely 7 00:00:21,189 --> 00:00:18,000 be sitting in that same seat 8 00:00:24,870 --> 00:00:21,199 maybe two four six months later 9 00:00:27,029 --> 00:00:24,880 in that icu by her bedside 10 00:00:32,229 --> 00:00:27,039 the doctors thought that that was a 11 00:00:35,590 --> 00:00:34,229 as she progressed 12 00:00:38,389 --> 00:00:35,600 day to day 13 00:00:40,950 --> 00:00:38,399 it became started to become evident that 14 00:00:44,150 --> 00:00:40,960 she was not going to be in icu in 15 00:00:46,950 --> 00:00:44,160 you know maybe not even two weeks 16 00:00:49,029 --> 00:00:46,960 i was told by all of her physicians that 17 00:00:51,110 --> 00:00:49,039 she was going to have a setback that at 18 00:00:52,950 --> 00:00:51,120 one point in the first 72 hours she was 19 00:00:55,029 --> 00:00:52,960 going to get worse and then again in the 20 00:00:55,990 --> 00:00:55,039 first week she was going to get worse 21 00:00:58,229 --> 00:00:56,000 and 22 00:01:00,069 --> 00:00:58,239 she would continue to have days where 23 00:01:01,270 --> 00:01:00,079 she just had setbacks and this was going 24 00:01:03,830 --> 00:01:01,280 to be 25 00:01:04,869 --> 00:01:03,840 a process much longer than i expected 26 00:01:07,109 --> 00:01:04,879 um 27 00:01:09,190 --> 00:01:07,119 since then four weeks ago nearly four 28 00:01:13,270 --> 00:01:09,200 weeks ago she's never gotten worse 29 00:01:15,990 --> 00:01:13,280 uh as we got to about the one week 30 00:01:17,670 --> 00:01:16,000 stay in the icu we started to evaluate 31 00:01:19,670 --> 00:01:17,680 where are we going to move her to for a 32 00:01:21,670 --> 00:01:19,680 rehab facility 33 00:01:23,910 --> 00:01:21,680 we've got we got received a lot of 34 00:01:24,950 --> 00:01:23,920 inputs from a lot of great places in the 35 00:01:26,710 --> 00:01:24,960 country 36 00:01:28,710 --> 00:01:26,720 it became 37 00:01:30,230 --> 00:01:28,720 quickly evident that one of the best 38 00:01:31,910 --> 00:01:30,240 places 39 00:01:34,870 --> 00:01:31,920 in the country for this type of injury 40 00:01:36,390 --> 00:01:34,880 was here in houston at tier memorial 41 00:01:40,469 --> 00:01:36,400 hermann 42 00:01:43,109 --> 00:01:40,479 so about two weeks ago i started 43 00:01:45,590 --> 00:01:43,119 going through the process myself 44 00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:45,600 of what would i need 45 00:01:49,109 --> 00:01:47,360 in order to get back 46 00:01:52,830 --> 00:01:49,119 with my crew to continue training for 47 00:01:56,469 --> 00:01:54,550 and 48 00:01:58,789 --> 00:01:56,479 you know this has been a a learning 49 00:02:00,630 --> 00:01:58,799 process in brain injury for me and what 50 00:02:03,270 --> 00:02:00,640 rehab is like 51 00:02:05,429 --> 00:02:03,280 and after speaking to 52 00:02:06,789 --> 00:02:05,439 her rehab doctors and the neurosurgeons 53 00:02:08,229 --> 00:02:06,799 here 54 00:02:09,830 --> 00:02:08,239 it also became evident that she was 55 00:02:10,949 --> 00:02:09,840 going to be very busy 56 00:02:13,350 --> 00:02:10,959 um 57 00:02:15,670 --> 00:02:13,360 her days are filled 58 00:02:18,710 --> 00:02:15,680 from the time she gets up at 8 o'clock 59 00:02:20,790 --> 00:02:18,720 until after 6 p.m with 60 00:02:23,350 --> 00:02:20,800 six hours of speech occupational 61 00:02:24,229 --> 00:02:23,360 physical therapy so she's got very busy 62 00:02:26,949 --> 00:02:24,239 days 63 00:02:29,350 --> 00:02:26,959 and meals in between 64 00:02:33,670 --> 00:02:29,360 and i started to think 65 00:02:34,949 --> 00:02:33,680 about sts-134 about the mission my crew 66 00:02:35,990 --> 00:02:34,959 the fact that i've been training for it 67 00:02:38,390 --> 00:02:36,000 for 68 00:02:40,309 --> 00:02:38,400 nearly a year and a half 69 00:02:42,630 --> 00:02:40,319 and considering 70 00:02:45,270 --> 00:02:42,640 a bunch of other factors including how 71 00:02:47,509 --> 00:02:45,280 what gabrielle would want me to do 72 00:02:49,350 --> 00:02:47,519 and what her parents and her family and 73 00:02:51,589 --> 00:02:49,360 my family would like 74 00:02:54,070 --> 00:02:51,599 you know i ultimately made the decision 75 00:02:56,630 --> 00:02:54,080 that i would like to return 76 00:02:58,630 --> 00:02:56,640 and and command 77 00:03:00,470 --> 00:02:58,640 sts-134 78 00:03:02,229 --> 00:03:00,480 so at that point i went to 79 00:03:04,070 --> 00:03:02,239 my boss peggy 80 00:03:06,710 --> 00:03:04,080 whitson peggy whitson the chief of the 81 00:03:08,550 --> 00:03:06,720 astronaut office well mark obviously had 82 00:03:10,470 --> 00:03:08,560 to make the first part of this decision 83 00:03:13,030 --> 00:03:10,480 because we weren't going to ask him to 84 00:03:14,550 --> 00:03:13,040 command 134 unless he felt comfortable 85 00:03:16,470 --> 00:03:14,560 and ready to do that 86 00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:16,480 and in addition to feeling comfortable 87 00:03:20,949 --> 00:03:19,120 he has an incredible support group which 88 00:03:23,750 --> 00:03:20,959 made us more comfortable with the fact 89 00:03:25,110 --> 00:03:23,760 that he had folks to help him through 90 00:03:28,470 --> 00:03:25,120 this process 91 00:03:30,710 --> 00:03:28,480 and that it would make it a doable thing 92 00:03:32,869 --> 00:03:30,720 for him to perform the mission 93 00:03:34,710 --> 00:03:32,879 from from my perspective obviously i 94 00:03:36,630 --> 00:03:34,720 have to choose a crew 95 00:03:38,309 --> 00:03:36,640 a crew that will be able to support the 96 00:03:40,309 --> 00:03:38,319 mission and i want to be able to do that 97 00:03:41,509 --> 00:03:40,319 with the least amount of risk overall 98 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:41,519 for the mission 99 00:03:45,190 --> 00:03:44,000 and to optimize for success and 100 00:03:47,030 --> 00:03:45,200 obviously 101 00:03:49,750 --> 00:03:47,040 although cj has been training as a 102 00:03:51,830 --> 00:03:49,760 backup the last few weeks 103 00:03:53,429 --> 00:03:51,840 it's still better to choose the the 104 00:03:55,110 --> 00:03:53,439 fellow that's been training for a year 105 00:03:56,869 --> 00:03:55,120 and a half in order to reduce the 106 00:03:58,470 --> 00:03:56,879 overall mission risk 107 00:04:01,509 --> 00:03:58,480 so 108 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:01,519 we went forward with the plan back to my 109 00:04:06,309 --> 00:04:03,920 boss brent 110 00:04:09,350 --> 00:04:06,319 both peggy and mark sat down with myself 111 00:04:11,190 --> 00:04:09,360 my deputy janet cavandi and my assistant 112 00:04:12,789 --> 00:04:11,200 brian kelly 113 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:12,799 and we we wanted to talk about the 114 00:04:17,590 --> 00:04:15,200 situation and make sure we 115 00:04:19,909 --> 00:04:17,600 had thought about all the the potential 116 00:04:21,670 --> 00:04:19,919 risks to the mission and address those 117 00:04:22,710 --> 00:04:21,680 appropriately before we made a final 118 00:04:23,749 --> 00:04:22,720 decision 119 00:04:25,830 --> 00:04:23,759 so 120 00:04:28,629 --> 00:04:25,840 uh they came to me mark had a very good 121 00:04:29,830 --> 00:04:28,639 plan he had 122 00:04:31,270 --> 00:04:29,840 he had 123 00:04:33,030 --> 00:04:31,280 a routine 124 00:04:35,830 --> 00:04:33,040 that he explained to me 125 00:04:37,749 --> 00:04:35,840 how his days would proceed 126 00:04:40,870 --> 00:04:37,759 and how he would be able to commit the 127 00:04:43,430 --> 00:04:40,880 time necessary to train for the mission 128 00:04:45,909 --> 00:04:43,440 that made me feel feel comfortable 129 00:04:47,909 --> 00:04:45,919 we also discussed 130 00:04:49,350 --> 00:04:47,919 with our doctors 131 00:04:51,590 --> 00:04:49,360 and who were in communication with 132 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:51,600 gabrielle's doctors about the potential 133 00:04:55,590 --> 00:04:52,720 risk of 134 00:04:57,749 --> 00:04:55,600 of her condition changing over the next 135 00:04:59,430 --> 00:04:57,759 eight weeks or so and that 136 00:05:00,550 --> 00:04:59,440 potentially resulting in a change in 137 00:05:02,870 --> 00:05:00,560 mark's 138 00:05:04,870 --> 00:05:02,880 ability to to commit his time to the 139 00:05:05,749 --> 00:05:04,880 mission 140 00:05:07,909 --> 00:05:05,759 and we 141 00:05:10,469 --> 00:05:07,919 we had very good answers from the 142 00:05:12,230 --> 00:05:10,479 doctors mark had a very good plan 143 00:05:13,749 --> 00:05:12,240 but there was a piece that i felt that 144 00:05:15,189 --> 00:05:13,759 was missing 145 00:05:17,110 --> 00:05:15,199 and and so 146 00:05:18,870 --> 00:05:17,120 we looked at 147 00:05:20,870 --> 00:05:18,880 this we said well we don't have to make 148 00:05:22,950 --> 00:05:20,880 the decision this was a week ago we 149 00:05:25,909 --> 00:05:22,960 don't have to make the decision today 150 00:05:29,189 --> 00:05:25,919 we need to make it in about a week so 151 00:05:32,870 --> 00:05:29,199 we wanted to put mark's plan into effect 152 00:05:35,670 --> 00:05:32,880 so we asked him to train this week 153 00:05:37,430 --> 00:05:35,680 with a schedule that would approximate 154 00:05:39,749 --> 00:05:37,440 a schedule he would have while he was 155 00:05:42,070 --> 00:05:39,759 training for the mission 156 00:05:44,469 --> 00:05:42,080 and put you know put his plan into 157 00:05:47,029 --> 00:05:44,479 effect and see how it worked out it also 158 00:05:48,550 --> 00:05:47,039 gave us an up an opportunity to observe 159 00:05:50,390 --> 00:05:48,560 mark 160 00:05:52,550 --> 00:05:50,400 obviously as his 161 00:05:54,870 --> 00:05:52,560 management it was important for us to 162 00:05:56,950 --> 00:05:54,880 know that he would be able to focus 163 00:06:00,469 --> 00:05:56,960 while he was in training and not be 164 00:06:01,670 --> 00:06:00,479 distracted by gabrielle's situation 165 00:06:05,749 --> 00:06:01,680 up at 166 00:06:11,029 --> 00:06:08,309 so during the week uh mark flew a couple 167 00:06:13,110 --> 00:06:11,039 times in the t-38 with instructors uh he 168 00:06:15,430 --> 00:06:13,120 we asked him to do essentially a 169 00:06:16,950 --> 00:06:15,440 complete checkout 170 00:06:18,629 --> 00:06:16,960 back into the airplane he hadn't flown 171 00:06:21,670 --> 00:06:18,639 since december 172 00:06:22,550 --> 00:06:21,680 so he did that he was in a he was in a a 173 00:06:24,790 --> 00:06:22,560 shuttle 174 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:24,800 ascent and entry simulation for four 175 00:06:29,110 --> 00:06:27,360 hours uh that gave us an opportunity to 176 00:06:30,710 --> 00:06:29,120 uh to observe him 177 00:06:32,950 --> 00:06:30,720 as well as a couple other training 178 00:06:35,830 --> 00:06:32,960 events during the week he was also away 179 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:35,840 for an evening which he will have to do 180 00:06:39,830 --> 00:06:37,440 during training there will be times when 181 00:06:41,749 --> 00:06:39,840 he'll be away from houston for a night 182 00:06:43,830 --> 00:06:41,759 or more and so 183 00:06:45,909 --> 00:06:43,840 he was a he was up in d.c for a prayer 184 00:06:47,350 --> 00:06:45,919 breakfast and we felt that that was a 185 00:06:49,270 --> 00:06:47,360 good chance for 186 00:06:52,070 --> 00:06:49,280 for for him to see what it was going to 187 00:06:53,270 --> 00:06:52,080 be like to be away from gabrielle 188 00:06:54,710 --> 00:06:53,280 and i think that was the first time 189 00:06:59,110 --> 00:06:54,720 you've probably been away from her right 190 00:07:01,430 --> 00:06:59,120 since since uh since the the shooting 191 00:07:04,629 --> 00:07:01,440 so we we thought we we had a good 192 00:07:06,629 --> 00:07:04,639 process for bringing back uh mark into 193 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:06,639 training before we made the decision uh 194 00:07:11,909 --> 00:07:08,800 getting the chance to observe him and 195 00:07:12,870 --> 00:07:11,919 then we met again yesterday uh we talked 196 00:07:15,189 --> 00:07:12,880 to the 197 00:07:17,350 --> 00:07:15,199 to all the individuals or as many as we 198 00:07:19,670 --> 00:07:17,360 could that that were that had a chance 199 00:07:22,629 --> 00:07:19,680 to observe mark during the week 200 00:07:25,990 --> 00:07:22,639 and then we were able to unanimous 201 00:07:27,749 --> 00:07:26,000 unanimously decide uh that mark was 202 00:07:30,390 --> 00:07:27,759 indeed ready to resume training on 203 00:07:32,230 --> 00:07:30,400 monday and fly as the commander 204 00:07:33,749 --> 00:07:32,240 of course i don't make that final 205 00:07:35,749 --> 00:07:33,759 decision um 206 00:07:40,870 --> 00:07:35,759 and 207 00:07:43,189 --> 00:07:40,880 made that recommendation to my boss mike 208 00:07:45,110 --> 00:07:43,199 coates it then went through 209 00:07:46,550 --> 00:07:45,120 obviously the program 210 00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:46,560 the aaa at headquarters bill 211 00:07:49,670 --> 00:07:48,240 gerstenmaier and all the way to charlie 212 00:07:51,670 --> 00:07:49,680 bolden so 213 00:07:52,550 --> 00:07:51,680 that's how we got from a week ago when 214 00:07:55,510 --> 00:07:52,560 mark 215 00:07:56,390 --> 00:07:55,520 felt he was ready uh to today when we're 216 00:07:58,550 --> 00:07:56,400 we're 217 00:08:00,550 --> 00:07:58,560 you know i think i personally i'm very 218 00:08:03,510 --> 00:08:00,560 glad to be able to have mark back as the 219 00:08:05,510 --> 00:08:03,520 commander of 134. 220 00:08:07,909 --> 00:08:05,520 so coincidentally 221 00:08:09,670 --> 00:08:07,919 we had a little bit of a launch slip 222 00:08:12,629 --> 00:08:09,680 about the same time that this happened 223 00:08:15,830 --> 00:08:12,639 so our launch date moved from 224 00:08:18,790 --> 00:08:15,840 earlier in april to april 19th 225 00:08:19,830 --> 00:08:18,800 and before that we had another slip that 226 00:08:21,909 --> 00:08:19,840 moved us 227 00:08:23,430 --> 00:08:21,919 from february to april and when that 228 00:08:24,950 --> 00:08:23,440 happens it frees up a lot of time in 229 00:08:27,670 --> 00:08:24,960 your launch schedule so we didn't we 230 00:08:29,430 --> 00:08:27,680 didn't have a busy training flow even 231 00:08:30,469 --> 00:08:29,440 before january 8th 232 00:08:32,550 --> 00:08:30,479 actually 233 00:08:35,190 --> 00:08:32,560 which is what we like you know something 234 00:08:37,670 --> 00:08:35,200 pretty reasonable rather than 235 00:08:39,750 --> 00:08:37,680 a training flow that is jam-packed and 236 00:08:43,190 --> 00:08:39,760 that's because of our launch date moving 237 00:08:44,870 --> 00:08:43,200 so those extra days we got 238 00:08:45,910 --> 00:08:44,880 turned out that it helped 239 00:08:48,310 --> 00:08:45,920 so 240 00:08:49,990 --> 00:08:48,320 actually i didn't really miss anything 241 00:08:51,910 --> 00:08:50,000 maybe 242 00:08:53,670 --> 00:08:51,920 one 243 00:08:56,389 --> 00:08:53,680 orbit sim 244 00:08:59,509 --> 00:08:56,399 for a what's called dock late inspection 245 00:09:00,710 --> 00:08:59,519 but my crew did a great job at it and 246 00:09:02,630 --> 00:09:00,720 so they don't they don't actually need 247 00:09:03,990 --> 00:09:02,640 me i'm sitting here today 248 00:09:05,430 --> 00:09:04,000 um so 249 00:09:11,030 --> 00:09:05,440 just that one event 250 00:09:16,150 --> 00:09:13,910 i have not had that discussion 251 00:09:17,430 --> 00:09:16,160 we do have email on orbit so i can stay 252 00:09:19,990 --> 00:09:17,440 up to date 253 00:09:22,790 --> 00:09:20,000 with with email we do 254 00:09:25,590 --> 00:09:22,800 have what's called an ip phone on board 255 00:09:26,870 --> 00:09:25,600 my experience as a space space shuttle 256 00:09:29,430 --> 00:09:26,880 crew member is i don't use it all that 257 00:09:31,829 --> 00:09:29,440 often uh it will probably be 258 00:09:33,910 --> 00:09:31,839 similar to that so my plan is really not 259 00:09:35,829 --> 00:09:33,920 to ask for anything extra 260 00:09:38,150 --> 00:09:35,839 and any updates i need i can get via 261 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:38,160 email 262 00:09:42,310 --> 00:09:39,120 well 263 00:09:45,750 --> 00:09:42,320 bob i don't want to get into details on 264 00:09:47,030 --> 00:09:45,760 her condition or her prognosis 265 00:09:48,710 --> 00:09:47,040 but 266 00:09:51,190 --> 00:09:48,720 let me say that 267 00:09:54,230 --> 00:09:51,200 she improves every day 268 00:09:55,750 --> 00:09:54,240 the neurosurgeon and the 269 00:09:59,269 --> 00:09:55,760 trauma doc's certainly out of the 270 00:10:01,350 --> 00:09:59,279 picture now the the icu doctor 271 00:10:02,949 --> 00:10:01,360 but her rehab doctors are just 272 00:10:05,030 --> 00:10:02,959 incredibly 273 00:10:06,949 --> 00:10:05,040 impressed with her progress and the fact 274 00:10:08,470 --> 00:10:06,959 that the slope of that curve is very 275 00:10:12,790 --> 00:10:08,480 steep they think she's going to make a 276 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,949 did i personally get the 277 00:10:20,470 --> 00:10:18,630 with her that okay comfortable with 278 00:10:21,350 --> 00:10:20,480 people well i know her i know her very 279 00:10:23,750 --> 00:10:21,360 well 280 00:10:26,630 --> 00:10:23,760 and she would be very comfortable with 281 00:10:29,509 --> 00:10:26,640 the decision that i made 282 00:10:32,230 --> 00:10:29,519 well when i told her mom in the icu in 283 00:10:34,710 --> 00:10:32,240 tucson that i most likely would not be 284 00:10:36,389 --> 00:10:34,720 flying sts-134 285 00:10:37,670 --> 00:10:36,399 she said something like what are you 286 00:10:39,190 --> 00:10:37,680 kidding me 287 00:10:40,949 --> 00:10:39,200 you know 288 00:10:42,069 --> 00:10:40,959 you you have to go do that and i 289 00:10:43,190 --> 00:10:42,079 explained to her well i'm not going to 290 00:10:44,949 --> 00:10:43,200 leave 291 00:10:46,870 --> 00:10:44,959 and i see you know the icu when 292 00:10:48,550 --> 00:10:46,880 gabrielle's in the icu that's just not 293 00:10:49,829 --> 00:10:48,560 going to happen 294 00:10:52,470 --> 00:10:49,839 you know and it's in it's in another 295 00:10:53,590 --> 00:10:52,480 state so you know i thought that 296 00:10:55,430 --> 00:10:53,600 that that 297 00:10:57,670 --> 00:10:55,440 was um 298 00:10:59,430 --> 00:10:57,680 you know that that was that was it 299 00:11:01,350 --> 00:10:59,440 and then i had a similar conversation 300 00:11:04,389 --> 00:11:01,360 with her father so they've been very 301 00:11:07,750 --> 00:11:04,399 supportive right from the beginning 302 00:11:10,069 --> 00:11:07,760 so my flight surgeon joe durbay 303 00:11:11,829 --> 00:11:10,079 told me when we were even back in tucson 304 00:11:13,829 --> 00:11:11,839 he says when when you get to the point 305 00:11:15,350 --> 00:11:13,839 of making a decision make the decision 306 00:11:16,630 --> 00:11:15,360 live with it for a couple days and then 307 00:11:17,990 --> 00:11:16,640 make the other decision and live with 308 00:11:19,910 --> 00:11:18,000 that one for a couple days so i actually 309 00:11:21,829 --> 00:11:19,920 went through that process over 310 00:11:23,110 --> 00:11:21,839 over a week ago 311 00:11:25,110 --> 00:11:23,120 and 312 00:11:29,750 --> 00:11:25,120 so i got a sense of what it would be 313 00:11:32,389 --> 00:11:29,760 like and as expected today a week after 314 00:11:33,509 --> 00:11:32,399 uh i think i first spoke to peggy about 315 00:11:34,710 --> 00:11:33,519 this 316 00:11:36,949 --> 00:11:34,720 you know i feel 317 00:11:39,110 --> 00:11:36,959 very confident that i made the made the 318 00:11:41,190 --> 00:11:39,120 right decision not only for me but for 319 00:11:43,350 --> 00:11:41,200 my crew members for my family 320 00:11:45,670 --> 00:11:43,360 and for my wife 321 00:11:47,110 --> 00:11:45,680 mark given the positive nature of how 322 00:11:48,230 --> 00:11:47,120 things have been going with 323 00:11:49,670 --> 00:11:48,240 rehabilitation do you have any hopes 324 00:11:50,870 --> 00:11:49,680 that she can come here for the launch is 325 00:11:53,430 --> 00:11:50,880 that something that you think might be a 326 00:11:55,190 --> 00:11:53,440 possibility absolutely i mean i have 327 00:11:56,790 --> 00:11:55,200 every intention that that she'll be 328 00:11:58,949 --> 00:11:56,800 there for the launch i've already talked 329 00:12:00,230 --> 00:11:58,959 to her doctors about it so there should 330 00:12:04,550 --> 00:12:00,240 be 331 00:12:05,670 --> 00:12:04,560 she can't go to the launch so that's 332 00:12:07,030 --> 00:12:05,680 that's that's 333 00:12:08,829 --> 00:12:07,040 i haven't spoken to peggy and brent 334 00:12:10,629 --> 00:12:08,839 about that yet but that's that's in my 335 00:12:11,990 --> 00:12:10,639 plan 336 00:12:14,150 --> 00:12:12,000 we really 337 00:12:15,910 --> 00:12:14,160 did some soul searching you know we 338 00:12:19,110 --> 00:12:15,920 researched uh 339 00:12:21,590 --> 00:12:19,120 gabby's condition and uh you know mark's 340 00:12:23,990 --> 00:12:21,600 support system and really looked into 341 00:12:24,949 --> 00:12:24,000 this we we think this is a very doable